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Problems with the Moderation.

Napisany przez susis, 23-10-2017, 19:47


Problems with the Moderation.

Offline susis

#1
Okay, so I will start up this thread with a joke.


What's the difference between a joke and a dick? You guys don't get the joke! ( Susis has been muted by (insert mod) for 2hours (insult))

First thing I want to talk about is the fact that mods are going full presonal when moderating the chats and not evaluating every chat objectively.

Most of the mods would mute whoever insults them personally for more time that if it would have been to be another person instead of them. Let me give you an example over this:

Susis: bk_player is an idiot!
Susis has been muted by bk_player for 5 hours (insulting)
Susis: Rei is an idiot!!!
Susis has been muted by bk_player for 1 hour (insulting)


This thing will lead me to my second point, and that is player favoritising and targeting, which is a big thing on this server. Mods like bk_player are basically favoritizing all the players who are known on the server and have lots of RP, for example ImYoNightmare, and are hating on players like Rei for being ''Toxic''. I have seen some times when Rei would report Nightmare for insulting him and he would get only 30 minutes, but when it came to Rei insulting Nightmare the mutes going up until 6 hours. Nightmare isn't the only one having the priviledge, Kirito as well, and some other players I will not give the names of because they don't deserve any attention.



I know I am using the fight between bk_player and Rei a bit too much, but it is because it has like the biggest impact over the both players, both being from like two enemy countries, hating each other's guts, but the difference between them being the fact that one of them has too much power and the other one has no power over the enemy.



bk_player was always biased on hating on Rei for basically no reason and there was a thing that happened back last friday, where bk_player called Rei ''reichu'', bringing in the Reich, basically calling Rei a Nazi, at which Rei responded with ''baka_player'', and guess what, Rei got muted for one hour for that, even if bk_player started it!
One other think I want to talk about in the thread is the 'toxicity' thing on the server, which word is overused. People like Rei and sometimes me are getting hated on just because we always say what we think and because we don't asslick everybody. It's not just us doing this kind of thing, but people like Nightmare, papiez, and Kirito as well, but they do it just to players, not getting muted in the process. Me and Rei on the other hand, don't care who we do it to, we do it only to the ones who deserve it, not to everybody who disagrees with us. This is not the thing I want to talk about though, the thing I want to talk about is the fact that the Moderators don't actually know how to combat it. They can always mute and ban the players, sure, but this won't solve anything in the long run, because more and more other toxic players will come. One better way of solving the issue is acting kindly over on being also rude and mocking those players. All the mods just mute them and then mock them afterwards, which makes said players just more angry and more toxic.



There are players like Orbacle, who are always kind and never get into trouble, and they can cure toxicity, want to know why? Because they are kind and basically explain in a nice manner why they shouldn't do such things.
This kind of things won't happen though, until you change some of the mods, starting with basically bk_player, and stopping Quindo for giving mutes and such, because they both overreact and bk_player has mostly gotten to the moment he is abusing said power, not only on me and Rei, but on others as well.


This is basically all I have to say for now, I will also post some pics
Rei sent me and asked me to post on this thread. 


https://imgur.com/a/fY5qx

I thank everybody for your time and have a nice day! 
[Image: Screenshot_2018-07-01-21-00-05-1.png]

Offline [ROTS]Mad_Mike

#2
Yes, so I agree with what Yuki says, mostly because we had this idea together, so there is nothing much I can say more than the fact I am waiting for your support. I love you all that will do that! You the best guys! Together we can change this server for the better!! Only us, together can change the way Mods behave for the best!!! - Rei the gey
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Offline Fox_BG

#3
well you are right

Offline bencxx

#4
Have to agree with @susis on this one. There should happen some changes drastically! Smile
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Offline Razvan_^w^

#5
Agree with Susis

Offline Arctuu

#6
I don't saw anything wrong with papiez but i saw some "interesting" situations with Kirito and ImYoNightmare (mostly with ImYoNightmare) ,soo i have to agree with you Yuki. Sometimes i have feeling like ImYoNightmare is "babysited" by bk_player.. But bk is not the only one... I can't say more cuz i was offline for 2 days. I hope someone will take care of it.

Offline LeonSkript

#7
(23-10-2017, 19:47)susis Wrote: Okay, so I will start up this thread with a joke.


What's the difference between a joke and a dick? You guys don't get the joke! ( Susis has been muted by (insert mod) for 2hours (insult))

First thing I want to talk about is the fact that mods are going full presonal when moderating the chats and not evaluating every chat objectively.

Most of the mods would mute whoever insults them personally for more time that if it would have been to be another person instead of them. Let me give you an example over this:

Susis: bk_player is an idiot!
Susis has been muted by bk_player for 5 hours (insulting)
Susis: Rei is an idiot!!!
Susis has been muted by bk_player for 1 hour (insulting)


This thing will lead me to my second point, and that is player favoritising and targeting, which is a big thing on this server. Mods like bk_player are basically favoritizing all the players who are known on the server and have lots of RP, for example ImYoNightmare, and are hating on players like Rei for being ''Toxic''. I have seen some times when Rei would report Nightmare for insulting him and he would get only 30 minutes, but when it came to Rei insulting Nightmare the mutes going up until 6 hours. Nightmare isn't the only one having the priviledge, Kirito as well, and some other players I will not give the names of because they don't deserve any attention.



I know I am using the fight between bk_player and Rei a bit too much, but it is because it has like the biggest impact over the both players, both being from like two enemy countries, hating each other's guts, but the difference between them being the fact that one of them has too much power and the other one has no power over the enemy.



bk_player was always biased on hating on Rei for basically no reason and there was a thing that happened back last friday, where bk_player called Rei ''reichu'', bringing in the Reich, basically calling Rei a Nazi, at which Rei responded with ''baka_player'', and guess what, Rei got muted for one hour for that, even if bk_player started it!
One other think I want to talk about in the thread is the 'toxicity' thing on the server, which word is overused. People like Rei and sometimes me are getting hated on just because we always say what we think and because we don't asslick everybody. It's not just us doing this kind of thing, but people like Nightmare, papiez, and Kirito as well, but they do it just to players, not getting muted in the process. Me and Rei on the other hand, don't care who we do it to, we do it only to the ones who deserve it, not to everybody who disagrees with us. This is not the thing I want to talk about though, the thing I want to talk about is the fact that the Moderators don't actually know how to combat it. They can always mute and ban the players, sure, but this won't solve anything in the long run, because more and more other toxic players will come. One better way of solving the issue is acting kindly over on being also rude and mocking those players. All the mods just mute them and then mock them afterwards, which makes said players just more angry and more toxic.



There are players like Orbacle, who are always kind and never get into trouble, and they can cure toxicity, want to know why? Because they are kind and basically explain in a nice manner why they shouldn't do such things.
This kind of things won't happen though, until you change some of the mods, starting with basically bk_player, and stopping Quindo for giving mutes and such, because they both overreact and bk_player has mostly gotten to the moment he is abusing said power, not only on me and Rei, but on others as well.


This is basically all I have to say for now, I will also post some pics
Rei sent me and asked me to post on this thread. 


https://imgur.com/a/fY5qx

I thank everybody for your time and have a nice day! 
*sigh* here goes my unpopular opinion about this
#1_ Insulting a staff ALWAYS WAS worse than insulting normal players;
#1.1_ Mods insulting players is bad, its a fact. But some do to joke, with players that know is a joke, but some people take those insults too far and return fire aggressively and for real;
#2_ The more mutes you have for a specific reason, the bigger the mutes will be;
#3_ Reichu isnt related to the Nazi Reich, it was based on the pokemon, Raichu;
#4_ Ayyy lmao, my name is in some screenshots

Offline envy

#8
Your arguments are pretty much dumb. There’s a huge difference between insulting the moderation and the normal players, so I have no idea how can you compare these two. From what I know, Rei’s started all the 'bk_cunt' shit, so being impolite to him (even though no one is without any reason) is just fair. Mods like Quindo or bk_player has certainly made this server a better place, and just because you think so, it doesn’t make it true. Rei’s obviously getting hated for acting childishly, so I don’t know why you’re implying that I and Nightmare are treated better than him just because we’re 'asslicking' others. And when it comes to helping players, instead of enlightening them, your beloved Rei w/ his friends are legit ignoring it, adding their own subjective opinions, skipping the objectivity.
Well, it’s so chaotic, but I think I managed to explain it all to you. You should be much more non-judgmental. ~ papiez, the worst villain.

Offline [ROTS]Mad_Mike

#9
(23-10-2017, 20:03)LeonSkript Wrote:
(23-10-2017, 19:47)susis Wrote: Okay, so I will start up this thread with a joke.


What's the difference between a joke and a dick? You guys don't get the joke! ( Susis has been muted by (insert mod) for 2hours (insult))

First thing I want to talk about is the fact that mods are going full presonal when moderating the chats and not evaluating every chat objectively.

Most of the mods would mute whoever insults them personally for more time that if it would have been to be another person instead of them. Let me give you an example over this:

Susis: bk_player is an idiot!
Susis has been muted by bk_player for 5 hours (insulting)
Susis: Rei is an idiot!!!
Susis has been muted by bk_player for 1 hour (insulting)


This thing will lead me to my second point, and that is player favoritising and targeting, which is a big thing on this server. Mods like bk_player are basically favoritizing all the players who are known on the server and have lots of RP, for example ImYoNightmare, and are hating on players like Rei for being ''Toxic''. I have seen some times when Rei would report Nightmare for insulting him and he would get only 30 minutes, but when it came to Rei insulting Nightmare the mutes going up until 6 hours. Nightmare isn't the only one having the priviledge, Kirito as well, and some other players I will not give the names of because they don't deserve any attention.



I know I am using the fight between bk_player and Rei a bit too much, but it is because it has like the biggest impact over the both players, both being from like two enemy countries, hating each other's guts, but the difference between them being the fact that one of them has too much power and the other one has no power over the enemy.



bk_player was always biased on hating on Rei for basically no reason and there was a thing that happened back last friday, where bk_player called Rei ''reichu'', bringing in the Reich, basically calling Rei a Nazi, at which Rei responded with ''baka_player'', and guess what, Rei got muted for one hour for that, even if bk_player started it!
One other think I want to talk about in the thread is the 'toxicity' thing on the server, which word is overused. People like Rei and sometimes me are getting hated on just because we always say what we think and because we don't asslick everybody. It's not just us doing this kind of thing, but people like Nightmare, papiez, and Kirito as well, but they do it just to players, not getting muted in the process. Me and Rei on the other hand, don't care who we do it to, we do it only to the ones who deserve it, not to everybody who disagrees with us. This is not the thing I want to talk about though, the thing I want to talk about is the fact that the Moderators don't actually know how to combat it. They can always mute and ban the players, sure, but this won't solve anything in the long run, because more and more other toxic players will come. One better way of solving the issue is acting kindly over on being also rude and mocking those players. All the mods just mute them and then mock them afterwards, which makes said players just more angry and more toxic.



There are players like Orbacle, who are always kind and never get into trouble, and they can cure toxicity, want to know why? Because they are kind and basically explain in a nice manner why they shouldn't do such things.
This kind of things won't happen though, until you change some of the mods, starting with basically bk_player, and stopping Quindo for giving mutes and such, because they both overreact and bk_player has mostly gotten to the moment he is abusing said power, not only on me and Rei, but on others as well.


This is basically all I have to say for now, I will also post some pics
Rei sent me and asked me to post on this thread. 


https://imgur.com/a/fY5qx

I thank everybody for your time and have a nice day! 
*sigh* here goes my unpopular opinion about this
#1_ Insulting a staff ALWAYS WAS worse than insulting normal players;
#1.1_ Mods insulting players is bad, its a fact. But some do to joke, with players that know is a joke, but some people take those insults too far and return fire aggressively and for real;
#2_ The more mutes you have for a specific reason, the bigger the mutes will be;
#3_ Reichu isnt related to the Nazi Reich, it was based on the pokemon, Raichu;
#4_ Ayyy lmao, my name is in some screenshots

Skript, yes, but you missing out on something, people like ImYoNightmare do this on a daily basis, but they still get less, they are effectively more toxic than I am in a personal manner, unlike me, which only jokes, they are going full on personal over on that, raising useless wars over in the community, I understand that the mutes should be longer and longer, but make them longer for everybody, not just a handful of people. Also, bk_player was meaning 'Reich', basically mocking me about the fact that ImYoNightmare will get away with whatever insults he wants, and calling me a Nazi because me and some other players don't like him. I hope this helps you change your mind or agree with us on some points. Thank you for your comment!
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Offline susis

#10
(23-10-2017, 20:13)envy Wrote: Your arguments are pretty much dumb. There’s a huge difference between insulting the moderation and the normal players, so I have no idea how can you compare these two. From what I know, Rei’s started all the 'bk_cunt' shit, so being impolite to him (even though no one is without any reason) is just fair. Mods like Quindo or bk_player has certainly made this server a better place, and just because you think so, it doesn’t make it true. Rei’s obviously getting hated for acting childishly, so I don’t know why you’re implying that I and Nightmare are treated better than him just because we’re 'asslicking' others. And when it comes to helping players, instead of enlightening them, your beloved Rei w/ his friends are legit ignoring it, adding their own subjective opinions, skipping the objectivity.
Well, it’s so chaotic, but I think I managed to explain it all to you. You should be much more non-judgmental. ~ papiez, the worst villain.

your toxicity is not welcome here
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